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Donald J. Trump
« em: 2015-12-09 16:16:22 »
tem que ser, tem que haver um tópico sobre o homem....

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« Responder #1 em: 2015-12-10 00:00:03 »
Sim, já fazia falta.

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Donald Trump wants to ban the internet, will ask Bill Gates to ‘close it up’

Donald Trump has called for the internet to be turned off so that children can no longer use it.

The presidential hopeful said that “We’ve got to maybe do something with the internet,” because it was being used to radicalise people. He said that he would “see Bill Gates” so that he could look into “closing it up”.
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« Responder #2 em: 2015-12-10 16:12:46 »
DONALD TRUMP IS THE BEST THING TO HAPPEN TO AMERICAN POLITICS

Running for President of the United States is an exercise in using the right words. It’s about saying the things your base wants to hear in a way that doesn’t put them completely to sleep in a way that won’t come back to bite you in the ass when your opponent starts putting together attack ads. You play it safe, because no matter how much you want to appeal to the far left or far right, there are lines you don’t cross if you want to keep the base secure. Individuals may vote for a mad man, but The People won’t. Everybody knows that.

This is what makes Donald Trump a breath of fresh air in American politics.

Donald Trump doesn’t have anything to lose running for President. It’s probably largely a game to him, one he’s just happened to play perfectly this time around. A loss in Iowa or a defeat in the general election aren’t going to harm him any more than a flat tire or a missing cufflink. He’s not a politician, he doesn’t have a seat in Congress to worry about or state office elections to prep for. Nothing he does will hurt him in the long run. He’s a showman doing what a showman does, and if the things he says in the meantime are idiotic or dangerous, well, at least people are paying attention.

That freedom to not be harmed by his words is important, because it, along with ample media coverage, has allowed him to become the most important force in American politics in 2015.

If you care about politics, this is likely infuriating. It’s a mockery of the American political system, a perversion of everything about how we distribute power that makes our country great. This is a point of view I can sympathize with. Deep down all any of us want is for our country to be great, and I can see how people would find Trump’s dog and pony show disheartening.

And that’s why I love it.

Recently, I wrote a bit on the politics of fear, which I believe is the engine that drives all modern political campaigns. But like I said at the start, there have always been these lines that politicians knew not to cross, even if they wanted to. It’s the difference between hinting that all Muslims are potential terrorists and saying the only way we can stop terrorism is to ban all Muslims from coming to America; a politician might believe the first and think the second is the solution, but not even the most right wing Republican is going to push that idea because no one is going to vote for someone who says that out loud.

Enter Donald Trump.

Donald Trump is the answer to the question of “What would happen if someone ran for President on a platform of uncensored hate and fear?” He is modern American politics taken to their logical conclusion. He is the candidate that until now only existed as a thought exercise because no one is that crazy to actually run a campaign the way he has.

There are those out there that see this as a good thing. Some people on the left optimistically believe that Trump’s campaign will be the thing that galvanizes smart but apathetic voters to get more involved with politics, because no one with a brain on their shoulders is going to let this mad man get near the White House, right?

What they miss, and what goes often ignored when we talk about Trump, is that he’s doing a great job of galvanizing a part of the electorate that has been waiting for someone to come along and pander to them. If you’re the type that believes the best course of action in the Middle East is nuclear annihilation, is deeply afraid someone is coming to take your guns and genuinely believe deep inside that #AllLivesMatter, you’ve probably not seen a national candidate that truly spoke to you. Politicians can advance some of those ideas on a state level because most Americans foolishly believe states have no power, but national level politics are a different game.

It’s easy to forget, because American exceptionalism is drilled in to our heads the moment we can have thoughts, but America is still not a more perfect union. Electing a African-American man as President didn’t create a post-racial society; it likely made the racial divide in some people even worse. And sure, those people are probably on the fringes, but when you believe the vote is the only power you have that doesn’t have a trigger and someone like Donald Trump comes along, it’s inspiring. Who wouldn't want to vote for the guy that talks like those memes you share on Facebook and then doubles and triples down on them when people tell him he's wrong?

But we as a society need a reminder that those people exist, if for no other reason than that it keeps us honest about who we are and how far we have to go. Elections shouldn't be about making America great again; it should be about asking if we've ever been truly great, and how do we get to that point?

Not a single vote has been cast for Donald Trump yet. I have no idea how Iowa and New Hampshire and the rest of the race will play out. But we should all be paying attention, because this Trump experiment could be a game-changer for American politics. This is the most exciting Presidential politics have been since that time in 2000 when Florida couldn't figure out how to count, and way more interesting than an election that looked like it was going to be a referendum on Obamacare and gay marriage. As a bonus, it saved us from the nightmare that is Bush vs. Clinton.

It is watching a car crash in slow-motion on the grandest scale imaginable, and I can’t look away.

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« Responder #3 em: 2015-12-10 16:14:05 »
TRUMP TO LARK: I AM YOUR FATHER !

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« Responder #4 em: 2015-12-10 16:43:29 »
I asked psychologists to analyze Trump supporters. This is what I learned.

 
By Max Ehrenfreund October 15 
 
CALL him whatever names you like. A clown. A Know Nothing. A political greenhorn who can barely complete a sentence. A nativist, a racist and -- worse -- a New York liberal with a comb-over.

You can call him a blowhard if you want, but -- to the consternation of the conservative elite and to the surprise of just about everybody else inside the Beltway -- Donald Trump won't blow off.

The press mocked his rambling, hour-long speech at the launch of his campaign, in which he disparaged Mexican immigrants as "rapists." Few thought he could remain popular after saying that Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), imprisoned for more than five years in Vietnam after his plane was shot down, was "not a war hero." Political scientists forecast that Trump would fade.

But as the summer of Trump lingers into autumn, the real estate magnate remains the front-runner in the Republican presidential primary. The political establishment is flummoxed, and at least one of its members has concluded that Trump's supporters are just insane.

"What he did was, he fired up the crazies," McCain said after Trump held a rally in Phoenix.

Even after presidential candidate Donald Trump called for a ban on Muslim immigration, there's not much the Republican establishment can do about him. (Tom LeGro/The Washington Post)
From a psychological perspective, though, the people backing Trump are perfectly normal. Interviews with psychologists and other experts suggest one explanation for the candidate's success -- and for the collective failure to anticipate it: The political elite hasn't confronted a few fundamental, universal and uncomfortable facts about the human mind.

We like people who talk big.

We like people who tell us that our problems are simple and easy to solve, even when they aren't.

And we don't like people who don't look like us.


Most people share these characteristics to some degree, but they seem to be especially prevalent among Trump's base. Trump's appeal certainly has other sources, too, such as the nostalgia he so skillfully evokes, his financial independence from special interests, and the crucial fact that he had his own reality TV show. Some Republicans like Trump's anti-establishment approach. And many support Trump because of his substantive positions -- his views on immigration, his antipathy toward China, his defense of Social Security, or his opposition to tax deductions for wealthy bankers.


But given the gap between public support for Trump and elite opinion, it may be worth thinking about the ingrained predilections for confidence, simplicity and familiarity that are just a few of the reasons that psychologists gave when asked to explain exactly how Trump got yuge.

"Really, we're not giving people enough credit," argues John Hibbing, a psychologist at the University of Nebraska, Lincoln. "We have to take this seriously. You can look down your nose if you want to, but these people aren't going away."

We like big talkers

"If you're running for president, you should not be allowed to use a teleprompter," Trump likes to say. He doesn't on the stump. As a result, his typical speech is a congeries of tangents and digressions.

Even if Trump showed any strong inclination to speak in complete and eloquent sentences, though, his wildly cheering crowds wouldn't let him finish one.

Trump doesn't give the kinds of speeches that political consultants are used to hearing. He certainly doesn't deliver lines that are carefully formulated for applause and for prime-time sound bites. His style has been called a "word salad."

Still, he is an effective speaker, psychologists say. In fact, decades of research show that charisma has more to do with a person's demeanor than what he or she is saying, says Stanford University's Jeffrey Pfeffer.

In one series of well-known experiments conducted by the psychologists Nalini Ambady and Robert Rosenthal, subjects were able to predict how students in a college classroom would evaluate their teachers at the end of the term, based on 30 seconds or less of soundless footage of the instructor. The subjects in the study couldn't hear the words coming out of the instructor's mouth, but what mattered for the students was gesture and affect, not substance.   

Voters listening to politicians on television are just like the students in those classrooms, says Pfeffer, a psychologist who studies leadership.

"Most of the electorate would not pass a test on what anybody's positions are on anything," he said. "Nobody cares." Conservative voters, for instance, seem not to mind Trump's favorable comments on national health insurance and eminent domain.


What can win over voters is what Pfeffer called "narcissism."

"They're responding to dynamism, to force, to movement, to smiling, to facial expressions that convey authority," he said. Trump "does it with more force. He does it with more energy. Energy is contagious."

Arie Kruglanski, a psychologist at the University of Maryland, compares Trump's campaign to President Obama's in 2008. The two men have different styles, but both have animated their supporters with confident claims about the future.

"It's the audacity of those promises in those circumstances that really carries a lot of weight," Kruglanski said, "and it's the emotional, as opposed to the kind of deliberative, rational appeal that carries the day."

Both conservative and liberal voters can be susceptible to this kind of thinking. In other ways, though, psychologists believe that conservative and liberal minds work differently, which could help explain Trump's success with Republicans.

We want answers

The world can feel like a complicated place. There may be no good answers to the problems we confront individually and as a society. It is hard to know whom or what to believe. Things are changing, and the future might be different in unpredictable ways. For many people, this uncertainty is deeply unpleasant.

"People are just inclined to say, 'Okay, to hell with it. I'm not going to figure it out,' " Kruglanski said.

That desire is especially strong among social conservatives, research shows. They want answers, more so than other people.

One way that psychologists measure these preferences is by giving people a questionnaire that poses statements such as, "It's annoying to listen to someone who cannot seem to make up his or her mind," "I dislike it when a person's statement could mean many different things" and "In most social conflicts, I can easily see which side is right and which is wrong."

Conservative subjects are more likely to agree with these statements, whether psychologists give this test in the United States, Germany, Italy, Belgium or Poland.


Over the years, conservative commentators have objected to this characterization of their beliefs. They argue that conservatism isn't a psychological condition, but a set of ideas with a rich intellectual history, developed across generations through rational deliberation.

For their part, psychologists have responded that they aren't dismissing conservativism as irrational. After all, just because people are predisposed to believe something doesn't make them wrong. Saying someone is more likely to find an argument persuasive because of their psychology doesn't invalidate the argument. As psychologists see it, the desire for simplicity is just a fact about the way people think — one that several decades of research has now confirmed.

Hibbing of the University of Nebraska says this need for clarity is important to understanding Trump's support.

"People like the idea that deep down, the world is simple; that they can grasp it and that politicians can't," Hibbing said. "That's certainly a message that I think Trump is radiating."

Hibbing believes there may be a genetic reason for the differences between liberal and conservative minds, but the explanation is more of a hypothesis than a conclusion.

At Hibbing's laboratory, he and his colleagues study how conservative and liberal subjects react to unpleasant images, such as insects and injuries. They use cameras to track the motion of their subjects' eyes and place electrodes on their skin. Other researchers study the contractions of facial muscles and electrical activity in the brain.

These experiments show that conservative subjects react differently from liberal ones. They sweat more heavily when shown a picture of a dangerous animal. Their pupils focus on disgusting images, and they don't look away.

It's evidence that we don't develop political affiliations just by rationally evaluating competing philosophies and ideologies. Our opinions also have origins beneath the level of conscious thought, in our bodies and our brains.

In that sense, the desire for simplicity could be physical. And Trump has a way of responding to complicated questions as though the answers were so obvious, he is dumbfounded that no one else has figured them out yet.


A recent interview with Bloomberg News reveals this approach.

After nearly allowing himself to be drawn into a debate about whether women should be able to have abortions early in their pregnancies, he brushed the question aside.

"I'm pro-life, but with the caveats. It's: Life of the mother (very important), incest and rape," Trump said.

"Say a woman is pregnant, and it's not in any of those exception categories and she chooses to have an abortion," Bloomberg's Mark Halperin said.

"It depends when," said Trump, interrupting him.

"Let's say, early in her pregnancy," Halperin said.

Trump did not answer the question about timing. Perhaps he realized he was about to enmesh himself in nuance.

"Mark, it's very simple," he said. "Pro-life."

And Trump just dismisses experts on security who say his plans to build a wall along remote stretches of the Mexican border would be extremely expensive, if not practically impossible.

The wall "is absolutely buildable and can be built for far less cost than people think," he said when asked about these criticisms. "It's not even a difficult project if you know what you’re doing."

We put ourselves into groups

Following Obama's victory in his last election, the Republican National Committee produced a report calling on the party to do a better job of appealing to voters of color, especially Hispanic voters. More specifically, the Republican Party has long argued that if the economy is larger, everyone will be better off. Republican proponents of immigration reform often cite studies predicting substantial gains in economic performance.

Trump has done the reverse, appealing to people who could be especially averse to the presence of immigrants in their communities. The notion that improving the lives of immigrants would also help people living here already is profoundly counterintuitive, experts say, and that could be one reason that so many people find Trump's anti-immigration rhetoric so persuasive.

"Humans have a kind of tribal psychology," said Joseph Henrich, a biologist at Harvard University who studies the species's evolution.

In particular, humans tend to assume that if one group is getting more, another group must be getting less. We have a hard time understanding that two groups can both be getting more of something at the same time. Call it a cognitive blindspot, or a psychological illusion.

Henrich believes this zero-sum outlook could be a result of millennia of competition among our ancestors for limited resources such as land and mating partners. "You can find some degree of it in every human society," he said. "It varies dramatically across societies and populations, but it does pop up everywhere."

There is also evidence that this possibly ancient predisposition is shaping American politics today. Michael Norton, a psychologist at the Harvard Business School, has found that on average, whites now view discrimination against members of their own race as a larger problem than discrimination against blacks.

His explanation is that whites see competition between groups as zero sum. Whites assume that they must be worse off, since the legal and economic situation for blacks has improved. Research also suggests that white voters with stronger prejudices against African Americans are more likely to support the conservative GOP faction known as the tea party.

Norton speculates that antipathy toward Latino immigrants has the same psychological source.

"What Trump is tapping into is the mindset of a zero-sum game," Norton said, which he called an "intuitive" way of looking at the economy and society.

"It's hard to imagine that if we're eating a pizza, that adding more people would somehow give us more pizza. It takes a much-longer-term perspective," Norton said.

The presence of immigrants could also compound other psychological responses, such as how conservatives deal with uncertainty. Kruglanski of the University of Maryland and his colleagues found that in the Netherlands, residents were less comfortable with uncertainty the more Muslims lived in their neighborhoods.

While immigration is good for the economy on the whole, there is some evidence that it can reduce the wages of unskilled workers born in the country. Trump draws heavily on less educated, blue-collar white voters for his support. Some people in this group may be right to see immigration as a zero-sum game.

Economists fiercely debate this point, but in any case, their arguments probably have less influence over voters than do the facts of human psychology.

It's not just Trump, but human nature

Trump has lost several percentage points in the polls recently. Maybe the infatuation is wearing thin, or maybe not. Either way, his candidacy has already revealed something important about this country, about the Republican Party and, above all, about who we are as people.

To win the nomination, he will have to win over some voters who now support his rivals, which he might not be able to do. If Trump can't gain support, though, he may also not lose it, either. He is, in part, the product and the image of our species's unconscious and its unchanging predispositions.

Human nature, though, is not destiny -- or so argues Hibbing of the University of Nebraska. Our innate propensities can be overcome through persuasion and principled leadership in the long term, he said.

He compares the human mind to an ocean-going tanker. Changing the ship's direction takes time, and a map with the new course clearly marked. Instead of dismissing them as crazies, political leaders will have to acknowledge their constituents' biases against all that is complex, uncertain and unfamiliar.

"I don't think we can pretend that that's not who we are," Hibbing said.


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« Responder #5 em: 2015-12-10 18:19:35 »
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psychologists believe that conservative and liberal minds work differently

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« Responder #6 em: 2015-12-10 18:27:32 »
fascinante, o artigo.
obrigado Mr. karnuss

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So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is...fear itself — nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance.
Franklin D. Roosevelt

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« Responder #7 em: 2015-12-10 18:34:17 »
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psychologists believe that conservative and liberal minds work differently

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O resto não faço ideia, mas a identificação com grupos é comum e bem conhecida. E a ser alguma coisa, será mais forte naqueles que sentem a necessidade de ditar como os outros devem viver.

Sobre as mentes funcionarem de uma forma algo diferente entre alguns grupos (não necessariamente esses), não espantaria. Eu por exemplo falo dos pré-agrários, porque certamente muitas estruturas mentais ainda não terão sido suficientemente expostas à alteração societal que ocorreu desde o advento da agricultura, já que esta apenas teve lugar há 12,000 anos atrás e ainda por cima demorou a espalhar-se.

Naturalmente, tudo o que seja ditado por estruturas biológicas físicas ainda não se deve ter modificado em toda a população humana num espaço tão curto.
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« Responder #8 em: 2015-12-10 18:43:29 »
o lark sera pre-agrario segundo essa teoria?

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« Responder #9 em: 2015-12-10 19:18:20 »
Pode existir um critério objectivo (entre muitos outros efeitos): aqueles que vêem a riqueza como sendo uma coisa "mal distribuída" quando alguém que não produz para os outros (em termos absolutos, ou mesmo líquidos) tem muito menos riqueza do que alguém que produz, são tendencialmente pré-agrários.

A riqueza num mundo pré-agrário era efectivamente de todos, pois a principal fonte de riqueza vinha de ir à natureza buscar o que se necessitava. Seria injusto se num contexto de recursos naturais limitados, alguém consumisse 10x ou 100x o que outra pessoa consumia. Com o mundo pós-agrário, isso deixou progressivamente de ser verdade, sendo a riqueza em grande medida função daquilo que se produz para os outros (menos o que se obtém dos outros). Num mundo pós-agrário, concebivelmente uma pessoa pode ter um nível de riqueza biliões de vezes superior a outra sem a riqueza estar mal distribuída ou ser injusta. Aliás, num mundo pós-agrário até é possível (e fácil) ter uma riqueza negativa, basta obter mais dos outros do que se providencia aos outros.

Essa é uma alteração dramática. Se existir alguma base biológica que ajude a formar os conceitos, essa base biológica ainda não estará adaptada em toda a população de forma a  que este conceito de riqueza seja visto como fazendo mais sentido do que o anterior, dada a mudança de paradigma.
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« Responder #10 em: 2015-12-10 19:25:56 »
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Is Donald Trump Pulling A Nigerian 419 Scam?

I’m sort of breaking my promise here. No news. Why no news? Because the news you read is almost always by uninformed reporters and is totally irrelevant in 99.999% of the cases.

Example: Greece has not paid a single debt since Rome took over in 146 BC. And yet, everyone keeps asking me about Greece.

News flash: They will borrow more money, and AGAIN they will not pay their debts. Nor should they.

Greece is a subsidized beach resort, healthy food, etc but they aren’t a real country – (sorry in advance to anyone offended by this) and then in three years, for less than the cash Google has in the bank, the entire world will figure out another way to bail them out.

That’s all you ever need to know about Greece. By the way, when I was living in Astoria, New York (all Greeks) I learned the rules to the three ways they play backgammon there.

We would play all night in the local Greek-owned pool hall. I did this for 18 months. This has now made me an expert on Greek culture and news. It was probably the best 18 months of my life. The one and only time I had no worries, nothing to do. Just play.

But…Donald Trump. This news story fascinates me.

I was just in a coffee shop. John McCain was giving his “FIRST RESPONSE EVER” to Donald Trump’s remarks on the TV above the cashier.

About a dozen people were crowded in to listen. What would he say? Would he trash Trump? Would he take the high road?

Entertainment!

Because the human mind is prepared to have up to 150 friends (the so-called “Dunbar Number”) and most of us are not at 150, so we replace them with who we see on TV or in magazines. John McCain.

Or, for the guy sitting next to me at this moment: Kim Kardashian is his VERY close friend.

My Dunbar friend at the moment, based on the book I am reading: Bill Murray. I hope one day I meet him and he likes me.

But back to Donald Trump.

My wife Claudia has explained to me the news because I asked her why she was so upset the other day.

She told me he said two things that are super-idiotic. I don’t even think Trump truly believes what he says. Which I’ll explain why in a minute.

A) He said, “Mexicans and other South Americans [meaning: Claudia] are sending their murderers and rapists here to the US.”

Which has been non-stop laughs for me ever since. When I wake up in the morning I get to shake Claudia awake and say, “Hey, what’s a dirty rapist like you doing in my bed?”

B) He said John McCain is not a war hero because the “real heroes came home”.

Or something like that. There is zero chance I’m going to read exactly what he said so Claudia could be totally lying (which is possible, being a criminal, murdering rapist).

Ok: so first things: clearly the above two statements are moronic.

It’s like saying “Bill Cosby is a Mexican”. Or it’s like saying one of the bravest guys ever (whether you believe in his politics or not, which I don’t) is not a hero.

But I think something very insidious is going on and not a single person has noticed this.

Donald Trump is being an idiot on purpose.

Now, he might actually be an idiot. This is possible. BUT IF he weren’t, then he knows exactly what he is doing. A true game player MUST look at all sides of a story.

Note that after he said these statements his percentage in the Presidential race went from 0% to 12%.

By the way, it’s NEVER going to go higher than 30%. But he knows that.

He also knows he has a low chance of winning the Republican nomination for a billion reasons.

So he did a classic marketing strategy. He did the Nigerian 419 scam.

The Nigerian 419 strategy is to have a misspelled email from the son of some deceased Prince who needs all your bank info in order to release $20 million that he will eagerly split with you.

Then he steals all of your money.

Why is the email misspelled? After decades of Nigerians sending the exact same email, why is it always mis-spelled? And, by the way, the OFFICIAL LANGUAGE OF NIGERIA IS ENGLISH.




There’s a simple reason. Anybody in the top 90% of rational people know that a misspelled email coming from a Nigerian prince is a scam.

The Nigerians don’t want to deal with those 90%. Even if you sent a perfectly spelled letter with a much more realistic story, those 90% will figure it out. Then the scammer will have wasted his time. He doesn’t want to waste time.

He needs to find the 10% that will respond to him really quickly. (Btw, I’m assuming “he” but can also be a “she”). And the 10% that will work.

Does it work? Of course it does. 419-ers made $13 billion last year. And every year.

This is what Donald Trump is doing. And I’m not kidding. I really think he is doing this.

He is saying the most stupid, most outrageous things because he’s immediately filtering out the 90% that will never like him anyway.

The 12% that are left have managed to jump over AMAZING hurdles to keep liking him. Who could possibly like him after this?

There are clearly ZERO other candidates for these 12%. Trump represents exactly what they are thinking and he used the fastest approach possible to identify those 12%.

Because of the Idiot 12% – In the first weeks of February, Trump will come in a respectable, 2nd or 3rd in Iowa, New Hampshire, and definitely South Carolina (which after 150 years finally admitted they belong in the United States and slavery is bad).

Then he will drop out of the race and form a third party. Once he forms a third party, he will be able to raise a ton of money, appease his ego, scam people for the next decade, and enter the next stage of his insane career.

Not to mention drain votes from Republicans, giving himself a target to attack for the next eight years (Hilary Clinton) by effectively deciding the Presidential race.

Which is his goal from the beginning.

Most people do the right thing and ignore the Nigerian 419 scam.

The best strategy, which nobody will take (including me by writing this), is to just ignore him.

But we won’t. We irrationally need a Donald Trump. Because evolution tells us we need people to gossip about.
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« Responder #11 em: 2015-12-11 22:37:06 »
What social science tells us about racism in the Republican party

Presidential candidate Donald Trump's proposal to bar all Muslims from entering the United States has reignited an old debate about the Republican Party, which some see as the party of intolerance.

Liberal critics have long insisted that Republican candidates use coded language that sounds respectable on its face but covertly signals an outdated view of race, ethnicity and religion to their constituents. Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) voiced this perspective on Tuesday, saying that Trump's words and policies simply reveal the true values of the party and its supporters.

Some leading Republicans have rebuked Trump, distancing themselves and the party from his views.

"This is not conservatism. What was proposed yesterday is not what this party stands for," House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said a day after the presidential candidate proposed barring Muslims.

At the same time, other Republicans have been circumspect in their criticism of the party's presidential front-runner. Critics claim these GOP politicians are blowing a "dog whistle," inaudibly appealing to their constituents' prejudices.

The same argument has been applied to almost every recent presidential election: President Ronald Reagan was criticized for invoking the image of the welfare queen to imply that African Americans were lazy crooks who bilked the government. President George H.W. Bush's infamous Willie Horton spot told the story of a black man who committed violent crimes while on furlough from prison, a move that critics say won Bush supporters by exploiting white Americans' fear of black crime.

An expanding body of research by psychologists, economists and political scientists suggests that voters' racial biases help the GOP win elections, and critics say the party is capitalizing on that fact. Though researchers haven't settled how successful dog-whistle politics are at tapping into those prejudices, some believe that race will become more, not less important in the party's future campaigns.

"There's a good deal of evidence that white resentment of minorities is linked to support for Republican candidates, their policies and conservative ideology in America," said Robb Willer, a political psychologist at Stanford University.

On the campaign trail, reporters frequently bring up Trump's rhetoric and ask the other candidates to make their positions clear at a time when white Americans are a rapidly declining portion of the population. Bruce Bartlett, who served as a senior economic official under Reagan and George H.W. Bush but now describes himself as independent, said Trump is giving Republicans a crucial opportunity to win over a larger, more diverse electorate by repudiating prejudice.

"Trump is forcing Republicans, at long long last, to finally decide, 'Are we going to be the party of racism and lose the White House forever?' " Bartlett said.

Racial biases

As the country has become more diverse, the Democratic Party has, too. But the demographics of the Republican Party have not changed much in recent years, according to Gallup. As of 2012, 89 percent Republicans were non-Hispanic whites, compared to 60 percent of Democrats. Nearly three quarters of Hispanic and Asian voters and fully 93 percent of black voters cast ballots in favor of President Obama in 2012, according to Washington Post exit polls.

Research has shown that voters who favor Republicans are more likely to hold racial biases against people of color. For instance, nearly one in five Republicans opposes interracial dating, compared to just one in 20 Democrats, according to the Pew Research Center.



A poll conducted by the Associated Press before the 2012 election found that 79 percent of Republicans agreed with negative statements about racial minorities, such as "If blacks would only try harder, they could be just as well off as whites." Among Democrats, the figure was just 32 percent.

The Republican National Committee did not respond on the record to inquiries about Reid's statement.

'The white man's party'

The data is all the more surprising at first blush since Democrats were the party of segregation in Southern states for decades. That began to change in 1963.

On June 11 of that year, President John Kennedy, a Democrat, gave a televised speech in favor of racial equality. That spring, the share of white Southerners who approved of Kennedy declined by a precipitous 35 percentage points.

Some Republicans saw an opportunity. By emphasizing their support for "states' rights" and "law and order," they could subtly appeal to those disaffected white voters, showing their support for the status quo without explicitly opposing civil rights.

"Substantial numbers of Party leaders from both North and South see rich political dividends flowing from the Negrophobia of many white Americans," wrote journalists Rowland Evans and Robert Novak, both well sourced in conservative circles, two weeks after Kennedy's speech. "These Republicans want to unmistakably establish the Party of Lincoln as the white man's party."

Over the next few decades, white support for Democrats in the South — once monolithic — gradually eroded.

Bartlett, the former Reagan administration official, argued that white Southerners did not leave the party because of racial bias. He said these voters held conservative positions on issues unrelated to race, such as health care and Soviet relations. That group gradually realized the Republican platform matched their views more closely.

On the other hand, a new paper by economists Ilyana Kuziemko and Ebonya Washington rebuts alternative explanations for the decline in the number of Southern white Democrats. Analyzing archival polls, the authors found no evidence that racially conservative white Democrats who left the party were more conservative on issues unrelated to race than those who stayed in the party. The only explanation for their desertion of the Democratic Party that was consistent with the data was racial animosity and opposition to civil rights.

Southern strategy

While some leading Republicans have tried to put this history behind them, there's reason to think the problem of prejudice will return with a vengeance in this campaign and in subsequent elections.

Maureen Craig and Jennifer Anne Richeson, psychologists at Northwestern University, recently conducted an experiment in which participants read about the fact that white residents are no longer the majority of California's population. Reading this information made white participants more likely to support the Republican Party and more likely to endorse conservative views in a questionnaire.

Given that white Americans' share of the population is declining in many other states, too, white voters could be swayed by candidates who talk about race, openly or not.

"Race is inevitably going to become a more and more important part of Republican strategy as it becomes more and more a party of whites and especially white men," said Eric Knowles, a political psychologist at New York University. "Demographically, that's where their base is."

Knowles's research suggests that this trend has already begun to affect GOP politics. Using data from a series of surveys, he and his colleagues found that membership in the tea party increased respondents' perceptions of white identity over time. Other researchers have found that its members tend to be more racist and xenophobic, after accounting for their belief in limited government and other conservative principles.

In other words, there are many Americans with conservative views, but those who also hold prejudices against foreigners and people of color were more likely to join the tea party.

"The shift we're seeing right now in politics is really an unselfconscious and unabashed reintroduction of racial interest and racial rhetoric in campaigns," Knowles said.

'Dog whistle'

Those tea party studies were conducted nearly five years ago, and data from the current campaign isn't yet available. To some observers, though, the Republican field's rhetoric fits a familiar pattern.

Trump is "the walking id of the Republican base, and maybe of the American people, too," Knowles said.

The real-estate magnate's proposal to bar all Muslims from entering the United States is a grandiose example, but his contenders are employing similar tactics.

Though Jeb Bush called Trump "unhinged," he also has said he believes that assistance for Syrian refugees should be directed toward Christians. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) agreed. "There is no meaningful risk of Christians committing acts of terror," he said last month.

In response to Trump's plan to ban Muslims from entering the country, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said this week, "I've called for something similar." Paul said he opposed a test for immigrants based explicitly on religion, but added that screening immigrants based on the risk they posed to national security would accomplish the same goal.

Neurosurgeon Ben Carson has also suggested that Muslims might be dangerous, comparing the predominately Muslim Syrian refugees to dogs.

"If there's a rabid dog running around in your neighborhood, you're probably not going to assume something good about that dog," Carson said last month. "It doesn't mean you hate all dogs, but you're putting your intellect into motion." He has also said he does not think that a Muslim should be allowed to become president of the United States.

As for Trump, the one issue that appears to unite his supporters is opposition to immigrants. A majority of Republicans who support the deportation of undocumented immigrants and oppose accepting refugees from Syria also support Trump.


 
Some politicians and pundits have called Trump a fascist and a demagogue, but the term wrongly suggests that his approach is radically different from that of other Republican candidates, said Ian Haney-López, a legal scholar at the University of California, Berkeley.

"These sorts of terms make Trump seem as if he's this exceptional unique outlier, that he's doing something that nobody else has done," said Haney-López.

"Clearly, in some ways he's different from other politicians," Haney-López said, "but in his strategic decision to pursue support, to mobilize support by appealing to people's racial fears, he's well within the tradition that has been established in the Republican Party since roughly 1963."

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« Responder #12 em: 2015-12-11 23:16:17 »
Acho que as esposas dos 2 irmãos Bush são de ascendência mexicana.
Ainda se arriscam a ser banidos do partido  ;D

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« Responder #13 em: 2015-12-12 00:24:14 »
Goose-Steppers in the G.O.P.
 
Well, he’s got the Hitler vote. The neo-Nazi website, Daily Stormer, was out and proud earlier this week: “Heil Donald Trump — the Ultimate Savior.” After endorsing the Republican presidential front-runner earlier this year for his call to deport 11 million Mexican immigrants, the fomenters of American fascism have now added an apt twist to his slogan, one not far from the truth of the campaign: “Make America White Again.”

Nazis — I hate these guys. Oh, but they’re a tiny minority of pink-faced malcontents living in basements with the windows taped up. Everybody hates them. Add to that supporters of the Ku Klux Klan, who’ve thrown in with Trump as well. David Duke, a former grand wizard of the Klan, liked everything he heard from Trump this week, embracing him for standing up for white nationalism.


And sure, all the little Hitlers probably don’t amount to a hill of beans. But what about the 35 percent of Republican voters, in the New York Times/CBS News poll, who say they’re all in with the man sieg heiled by aspiring brownshirts and men in white sheets?

It’s a very ugly political moment, but there it is: The Republican Party is now home to millions of people who would throw out the Constitution, welcome a police state against Latinos and Muslims, and enforce a religious test for entry into a country built by people fleeing religious persecution. This stuff polls well in their party, even if the Bill of Rights does not.

Trump’s proposal — “a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States” — is not just flotsam from the lunatic fringe. Well, it is. But the fringe is huge: Early polls show a plurality of Republican voters agree with Trump on banning all Muslims. And many would go even further.

“Add in every other kind of immigrant and it’s perfect,” tweeted Ann Coulter, who sells xenophobia as a mean girl provocateur, with many friends in the far right media universe.

Trump himself doesn’t seem to care about comparisons to the buffoonish (Mussolini), the truly scary (the evil one admired by the Daily Stormer) or the fictional — worse than Voldemort, as J. K. Rowling tweeted.

He sloughed off the fascism talk by associating his proposal with the internment in America of the Japanese during World War II. There’s a winning thought. I was wondering when he was going to get around to alienating Asian-Americans, the highest-earning, best-educated and fastest-growing racial group in the United States, according to Pew.

To review: He started with “the blacks,” through his smear campaign on the citizenship of the nation’s first African-American president. Moved on to Mexicans, war veterans, women who look less than flawless in middle age, the disabled, all Muslims and now people whose grandparents were rousted from their American homes and put in camps.

Which gets us back to his base and their awful bedfellows in the neo-Nazi bunkers. Who are these people? His supporters, most of them, do not see the shadow of the Reich when they look in the mirror. They are white, lower middle class, with little education beyond high school. The global economy has run them over. They don’t recognize their country. And they need a villain.

Trump has no solutions for the desperate angst of his followers. Tearing up trade agreements is not going to happen. Deporting workers who pick our fruit and hang sheetrock is not going to lift the fortunes of those who will no longer do those jobs. Barring all Muslims will not make us safer.

What he’s done is to give marginalized Americans permission to hate. He doesn’t use dog whistles or code. His bigotry is overt. But the table was set by years of dog whistles and code. The very “un-American” sentiment that Republican elders now claim to despise has been a mainstay of conservative media for at least a decade.

Yes, it’s encouraging that what is left of establishment Republicans have condemned Trump’s most odious idea yet. Sarah Palin, who stirred the resentment of “real Americans” against the nefarious Other when her party put her on the ticket in 2008, stands nearly alone in backing Trump’s call to bar entry into our country by adherents of the world’s second largest faith.

Still, it’s hard to take seriously House Speaker Paul Ryan’s rare objection to a lunatic suggestion from his party’s presidential front-runner when he says he would also back Trump should he be the nominee.

“It’s not our party,” lamented Senator Jeff Flake of Arizona. “It’s not our country.” As a Mormon, the senator has to be familiar with a time when there was an open war on his faith, when Mormons were considered not only un-American but domestic terrorists.

That history is instructive, as we struggle with Trump’s hysteria and the millions fired up by his hate. But the only way to get rid of the goose-steppers drawn to the G.O.P. is to vow to never support the man giving them something to march to.

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« Responder #14 em: 2015-12-12 00:43:30 »
Independentemente do que se possa dizer sobre o Trump e afins, no meio desse texto do Lark está que é "prejudice" ter medo da etnia negra nos EUA. Bem, é "prejudice" se forem só brancos a ter esse medo, mas se forem brancos e negros (e todos os restantes) já não é. É um medo racional... :D

A correlação entre taxa de homicídio (e isto aplica-se ao restante crime) e a percentagem de negros+indígenas num Estado é uma coisa fortíssima ...




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« Responder #15 em: 2015-12-12 00:48:25 »
mais uma fobia sem explicacao

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« Responder #16 em: 2015-12-12 00:50:37 »
Lembra esta cena do Crash (já agora, é um filme que vale a pena ver) ...  :D

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« Responder #17 em: 2015-12-12 01:34:30 »
Este grafico está engraçado. O facto da mortalidade infantil, da America Negra ser ao nível de uma Romenia ou de uma China, faz-me pensar que as desigualdades começam logo á saída da barriga da mãe (ou ainda lá dentro ..).

http://fusion.net/story/128844/if-black-america-were-a-country/

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What you’re looking at here is a chart showing how “Black America” and “White America,” if they were countries in their own right, would rank in terms of incarceration and mortality. For instance, the USA’s total homicide rate is pretty bad, at 4.5 murders per 100,000 people. That’s right between Ukraine and Niger. But for white Americans, the murder rate is much lower, at just 2.5 per 100,000. That’s not far off Norway’s 2.2.

“Black America,” on the other hand, is just astonishingly bad, with 18.2 murders per 100,000 people. That’s worse than Haiti, worse than the Central African Republic, and more than double the rate of Kazakhstan or even Iraq.

A look at infant mortality, a key indicator of development, is just as grim. Iceland has 1.6 deaths per 1,000 births; South Korea has 3.2. “White America” is pretty bad — by developed-country standards — with 5.1 deaths per 1,000 births. But “Black America,” again, is much, much worse: at 11.2 deaths per 1,000 births, it’s worse than Romania or China.

The chart also shows how black Americans are incarcerated at a rate which boggles the mind: There is simply no other country that comes close to its 2,207 per 100,000 people number. That’s three times the rate of the worst country in the world —the USA — and almost 50 times the rate of Iceland.
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« Responder #18 em: 2015-12-12 07:12:23 »
Este grafico está engraçado. O facto da mortalidade infantil, da America Negra ser ao nível de uma Romenia ou de uma China, faz-me pensar que as desigualdades começam logo á saída da barriga da mãe (ou ainda lá dentro ..).

http://fusion.net/story/128844/if-black-america-were-a-country/

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What you’re looking at here is a chart showing how “Black America” and “White America,” if they were countries in their own right, would rank in terms of incarceration and mortality. For instance, the USA’s total homicide rate is pretty bad, at 4.5 murders per 100,000 people. That’s right between Ukraine and Niger. But for white Americans, the murder rate is much lower, at just 2.5 per 100,000. That’s not far off Norway’s 2.2.

“Black America,” on the other hand, is just astonishingly bad, with 18.2 murders per 100,000 people. That’s worse than Haiti, worse than the Central African Republic, and more than double the rate of Kazakhstan or even Iraq.

A look at infant mortality, a key indicator of development, is just as grim. Iceland has 1.6 deaths per 1,000 births; South Korea has 3.2. “White America” is pretty bad — by developed-country standards — with 5.1 deaths per 1,000 births. But “Black America,” again, is much, much worse: at 11.2 deaths per 1,000 births, it’s worse than Romania or China.

The chart also shows how black Americans are incarcerated at a rate which boggles the mind: There is simply no other country that comes close to its 2,207 per 100,000 people number. That’s three times the rate of the worst country in the world —the USA — and almost 50 times the rate of Iceland.



a desigualdade dos negros comeca na barriga, chama-se droga


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« Responder #19 em: 2015-12-12 11:40:57 »


O Mundo atual:

- Donald Trump diz disparates: os media e guardiões da moral crticam

- Tsipras, Krugman, Corby, etc... dizem disparates: os media e os guardiões da moral
aplaudem

Estas discussões acerca das dinâmicas Sociais do séc XXI estão inquinadas à partida.

O fascismo de esquerda está a ganhar força e quer obrigar o normal a ser uma minoria.