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[Lark]

Piketty Says EU Politics Risks Driving Greece Out of Euro


Thomas Piketty, the French economist whose 2013 book on wealth inequality became an international bestseller, said he sees a risk of politicians in the European Union forcing Greece out of the euro area.
“The attitude of a number of people in Brussels and Berlin looks like: push Greece out,” Piketty said in an interview with Bloomberg Television in Paris.
Greece, Europe’s most-indebted state, is negotiating with euro-area countries and the International Monetary Fund on the terms of its 240 billion-euro ($259 billion) rescue. The standoff, which has left Greece dependent upon European Central Bank loans, risks leading to a default within weeks and its potential exit from the euro area.
German Chancellor Angela Merkel has repeatedly said that she wants Greece to stay in the euro and along with French President Francois Hollande last week expressed concern that time is running short.
“There’s no time to lose,” Merkel said at a news conference with Hollande after they met in Berlin March 31. Hollande said too much time has been lost already, adding that he would like an agreement and “the sooner, the better.”
Piketty said that lack of institutional coherence has damaged the euro area.
Germany and France aren’t just mistreating Greece, “they’re mistreating themselves,” Piketty said. “We need more political integration, more democratic institutions. You can’t just do it with summits of finance ministers.”
British Exit
Separately, the 43-year-old Piketty said that the main cost of a British exit from the EU would be to Britain and not its continental partners. Prime Minister David Cameron has promised to hold a referendum on the U.K.’s membership in the European Union if he’s re-elected next month.
“Many people on the continent are a little bit tired with Britain’s attitude and will say ‘if they leave, it’s too bad for them,’” Piketty said. “The main cost will be incurred by Britain, not by the continent.”

bloomberg

[Zakk]

http://economico.sapo.pt/noticias/wall-street-journal-zona-euro-deve-deixar-a-grecia-ir_215709.html

[Incognitus]

Piketty Says EU Politics Risks Driving Greece Out of Euro


Thomas Piketty, the French economist whose 2013 book on wealth inequality became an international bestseller, said he sees a risk of politicians in the European Union forcing Greece out of the euro area.
“The attitude of a number of people in Brussels and Berlin looks like: push Greece out,” Piketty said in an interview with Bloomberg Television in Paris.
Greece, Europe’s most-indebted state, is negotiating with euro-area countries and the International Monetary Fund on the terms of its 240 billion-euro ($259 billion) rescue. The standoff, which has left Greece dependent upon European Central Bank loans, risks leading to a default within weeks and its potential exit from the euro area.
German Chancellor Angela Merkel has repeatedly said that she wants Greece to stay in the euro and along with French President Francois Hollande last week expressed concern that time is running short.
“There’s no time to lose,” Merkel said at a news conference with Hollande after they met in Berlin March 31. Hollande said too much time has been lost already, adding that he would like an agreement and “the sooner, the better.”
Piketty said that lack of institutional coherence has damaged the euro area.
Germany and France aren’t just mistreating Greece, “they’re mistreating themselves,” Piketty said. “We need more political integration, more democratic institutions. You can’t just do it with summits of finance ministers.”
British Exit
Separately, the 43-year-old Piketty said that the main cost of a British exit from the EU would be to Britain and not its continental partners. Prime Minister David Cameron has promised to hold a referendum on the U.K.’s membership in the European Union if he’s re-elected next month.
“Many people on the continent are a little bit tired with Britain’s attitude and will say ‘if they leave, it’s too bad for them,’” Piketty said. “The main cost will be incurred by Britain, not by the continent.”

bloomberg

É natural, uma moeda única não vai funcionar quando alguns elementos decidem não respeitar as regras e depois de estoirarem exigem incumprimentos e apoios incondicionais dos outros.

A Grécia sair seria positiva para o Euro, aumentaria a sua credibilidade.

[Counter Retail Trader]

Piketty Says EU Politics Risks Driving Greece Out of Euro


Thomas Piketty, the French economist whose 2013 book on wealth inequality became an international bestseller, said he sees a risk of politicians in the European Union forcing Greece out of the euro area.
“The attitude of a number of people in Brussels and Berlin looks like: push Greece out,” Piketty said in an interview with Bloomberg Television in Paris.
Greece, Europe’s most-indebted state, is negotiating with euro-area countries and the International Monetary Fund on the terms of its 240 billion-euro ($259 billion) rescue. The standoff, which has left Greece dependent upon European Central Bank loans, risks leading to a default within weeks and its potential exit from the euro area.
German Chancellor Angela Merkel has repeatedly said that she wants Greece to stay in the euro and along with French President Francois Hollande last week expressed concern that time is running short.
“There’s no time to lose,” Merkel said at a news conference with Hollande after they met in Berlin March 31. Hollande said too much time has been lost already, adding that he would like an agreement and “the sooner, the better.”
Piketty said that lack of institutional coherence has damaged the euro area.
Germany and France aren’t just mistreating Greece, “they’re mistreating themselves,” Piketty said. “We need more political integration, more democratic institutions. You can’t just do it with summits of finance ministers.”
British Exit
Separately, the 43-year-old Piketty said that the main cost of a British exit from the EU would be to Britain and not its continental partners. Prime Minister David Cameron has promised to hold a referendum on the U.K.’s membership in the European Union if he’s re-elected next month.
“Many people on the continent are a little bit tired with Britain’s attitude and will say ‘if they leave, it’s too bad for them,’” Piketty said. “The main cost will be incurred by Britain, not by the continent.”

bloomberg

É natural, uma moeda única não vai funcionar quando alguns elementos decidem não respeitar as regras e depois de estoirarem exigem incumprimentos e apoios incondicionais dos outros.

A Grécia sair seria positiva para o Euro, aumentaria a sua credibilidade.

Concordo o problema é que volta e meia nao vao sair  (porque nao querem) . A não ser que consigam financiamento , pelos Russos for example (ou com varios hedge funds)

[Local]

A Rússia não deu dinheiro ao Chipre e era em muito menor montante. A Grécia também não deve receber nenhum.

[Counter Retail Trader]

A Rússia não deu dinheiro ao Chipre e era em muito menor montante. A Grécia também não deve receber nenhum.

Tenho ideia de que quando acontece poucas pessoas ficam a saber..

[Incognitus]

A Rússia não deu dinheiro ao Chipre e era em muito menor montante. A Grécia também não deve receber nenhum.

Tenho ideia de que quando acontece poucas pessoas ficam a saber..

A Rússia já tem chatices que cheguem sem andar a dar dinheiro à Grécia. A Rússia não está no negócio de dar dinheiro a ninguém, diga-se. Não vai acontecer.

[Counter Retail Trader]

A Rússia não deu dinheiro ao Chipre e era em muito menor montante. A Grécia também não deve receber nenhum.

Tenho ideia de que quando acontece poucas pessoas ficam a saber..

A Rússia já tem chatices que cheguem sem andar a dar dinheiro à Grécia. A Rússia não está no negócio de dar dinheiro a ninguém, diga-se. Não vai acontecer.

Se nao formos nos , ha de ser alguem . Estas a ver a Grecia por ela propria ?

[Incognitus]

Por ela própria ajusta-se automaticamente, sem ninguém lhe dar dinheiro. E nem tem que se ajustar muito porque já se ajustou bastante. Se sair do Euro a moeda leva uma pancada grande, mas se não se tornarem numa Venezuela via politicas socialistas, então esse ponto será o fundo e daí só recupera.

[Counter Retail Trader]

Por ela própria ajusta-se automaticamente, sem ninguém lhe dar dinheiro. E nem tem que se ajustar muito porque já se ajustou bastante. Se sair do Euro a moeda leva uma pancada grande, mas se não se tornarem numa Venezuela via politicas socialistas, então esse ponto será o fundo e daí só recupera.

Eles nao vao sair Inc , isto parece me tudo show off para pagarem a divida com dinheiro nosso , pura negociação ( E volta e meia conseguem) . Viagens aqui e acola , so bluf....
Podem é começar  quase do Zero com euro .

[Kin2010]

O FMI emprestou 460 milhões à Grécia, para a Grécia poder pagar 460 milhões ao FMI.

[Counter Retail Trader]

O FMI emprestou 460 milhões à Grécia, para a Grécia poder pagar 460 milhões ao FMI.

É uma especie de revolving , por isso digo , qual o interesse da Grecia sair ?

Liquidar uma divida com dinheiro do credor é o sonho do caloteiro.

[Lark]

Extra 1.2 bln in ELA for Greek banks seen as just covering outflows

 
By Yiannis Papadoyiannis

The governing council of the European Central Bank on Thursday stuck to the pattern established in previous weeks as it marginally expanded – by 1.2 billion euros – the cash available to Greek lenders in emergency liquidity assistance (ELA) via the Bank of Greece, as they struggle to cope with the continued deposits outflow.

The ECB raised the ceiling of the liquidity available from 71.1 billion euros last week to 72.3 billion, an increase which according to bank officials will only marginally cover the cash flow needs of the local credit system. They explain that the new addition will in effect offset the flight of deposits observed in the last few days.

According to the central bank’s latest data, the deposits of the private sector – households and enterprises – amounted to 140 billion euros at the end of February. In March, according to bank estimates, the deposits dropped by a further 3 billion euros, while the southbound course has continued during the first few days of this month.

The slide in deposits comes on top of the major losses recorded in February (7.6 billion euros) and January (12.2 billion), after a 4-billion-euro decline in December 2014. In total, deposits have shrunk by at least 27 billion euros since end-November 2014, while banks are expressing worries that unless there is a clear and definitive agreement between the government and its creditors, complete with the mission of significant amounts of money to Greece, the deposits will continue to evaporate.

The prolonged political uncertainty and a lack of tangible results in the government’s negotiations with its creditors have led to the crumbling of the sum of deposits from 165 billion euros in September 2014 to about 137 billion euros last month. Deposits had peaked at 237 billion euros in December 2009.

Crucially, the exposure of the country’s credit system to the liquidity of the Eurosystem is now estimated at about 110 billion euros.

kathimerini

[marreco]

http://greece.greekreporter.com/2015/04/05/greek-govt-signs-500-mln-contract-with-u-s-company-for-modernization-of-p-3b-orion-planes/

paga, alemão 

[Incognitus]

A Grécia não se pode queixar de falta de apoio do BCE, a facilidade ELA já vai em 74 mil milhões de EUR.

[Automek]

é esfolar o máximo que puderem antes de mandar a malta chuchar no dedo

[hermes]

A Grécia não se pode queixar de falta de apoio do BCE, a facilidade ELA já vai em 74 mil milhões de EUR.

Eh lá!

[Deus Menor]

Já se começa a falar abertamente no Grexit, seria um alívio para todos acabar com esta novela.

[vbm]

Não há novela nenhuma.
Ou a Grécia fica ou a Europa acaba.

[Deus Menor]

Grécia ou o caos !!!